Chat with Chris photos June 22, 2012

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Re: Chat with Chris photos June 22, 2012

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andyg wrote:
jack wrote:Some of the jump hour posts are way over the top.

If you did buy one only because it was an exclusive, well, that's kind of strange in itself. At most I suspect, the exclusivity may be but an influence along with several other more important ones, such as the look of the watch and the workmanship that had been put into it. Not to mention the bargain that it is for the money. And for a Jump Hour, the price was certainly a bargain.

I have to wonder how the fact that Chris is now to bring out a brother (or sister) to the Jump Hour, would seriously make anyone want to send back their previously bought Jump Hour, or rush off to Trading Standards :lol: . If you really like the watch, in all honesty, how could this really be an issue? Get over yourselves :thumbdown:

And in any case, the new model is different, the Rose Gold gives it a very different personality and will often appeal to a different buyer.

I know I'll never buy the Jump Hour myself. I like the elgance of the design, but it is just not quite right for me. However, it is a special CW and is one of the models that in years to come (if not already) will be seen as a step change for the brand, or a step up. And if you really are a friend of the brand, that should be good news. Another model even more so because it is an indication of success.

And please, no more talk of deception etc, not only is it a gross overreaction and totally unsubstantiated, it really isn't fair. CWL have over the years been a very reliable and honest brand. And Chris doesn't hide from his fans, or from criticism. Mistakes have been made occasionally, but that's part of the story when launching a new watch brand that strives to provide something special at a reasonable price. It gives meer mortals the chance to own some real quality watches. For most of us on here, it's an adventure. And we're lucky to be in at the beginning :wink:

Cheers,
Jack.
If you had spent a sizeable amount on any product that you had been told was 1 of 200 on the planet, you'd be seriously miffed too. On a more serious note, the statement that CWL made regarding this piece and it's production numbers are legally binding and are subject to trading standards regulations. That is not a laughing matter. If you disregard the rule of law or common decency as a business you are no better than Barclays Bank in my opinion.

I am confident Chris will do all he can to make good this mess, and take steps to ensure no repeat of this PR mess.

But do not ridicule peoples legitimate concerns and frustrations.

For the record, I do not own a C9JH.
:lol: Yes it is. And it's posts like this that crack me up! Get over yourself.

And it is one of 200.

And as far is legality is concerned - I'd be really very surprised if the team had not checked out the legality.

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Re: Chat with Chris photos June 22, 2012

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Anyway, getting back to the thrust of this thread...

C7 Mkll with numbers looks good, a sensible evolution of a classic, widely-mimicked design.

C9 Rose gold numbers...still looks a tad too plain for me, not something I'd pay extra for.

C9 chrono blue face...looks promising, better than the satinised dial on current C9s (which look a bit cheapt to me). Need to see it in situ and properly lit to pass an infomed judgement.

Makaira...hangs together well as a design, hint of Lume tec about it, not my style either way.

C900 monopusher...very promising, classy detailed execution will be everything

C10...the C8 case rides again! Would work better if it was brushed steel. Also need to know if it's a flat, printed dial - that was the big disappointment for me when my C8 Mk l landed in the flesh way back when. Didn't have any depth to it. Never feel in love with it and kept it simply because it was the fourth production model.

In summary, I've been hanging round Steinhart a lot in recent months. Some of these might bring me back.
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Re: Chat with Chris photos June 22, 2012

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Gosh the hands on the monopusher are so lovely.
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Re: Chat with Chris photos June 22, 2012

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Cheers Jack I'm gonna need those meds!
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Re: Chat with Chris photos June 22, 2012

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MorrisOx wrote: In summary, I've been hanging round Steinhart a lot in recent months. Some of these might bring me back.
I'm the opposite. I sold my Steinhart recently and have no real desire to order anything from them. Some of their designs are nice but they don't come out with new stuff all that often. I've heard too many stories about issues with quality control recently. My OVM was fine, but a lot of the newer ones seem to have misaligned bezels and crystal that's not lined up properly and other various issues. Their customer service is also not very responsive. I've gravitated towards CW because their designs speak more to me (particularly the dress watches) and their customer service is top notch.
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Re: Chat with Chris photos June 22, 2012

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I just thought I would let everyone know that Chris is aware of the discussions here regarding the C9 Jump Hour.

He is going to take some time to review everything. I will follow up when I hear anything.
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Re: Chat with Chris photos June 22, 2012

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Kip wrote:I just thought I would let everyone know that Chris is aware of the discussions here regarding the C9 Jump Hour.

He is going to take some time to review everything. I will follow up when I hear anything.
Thanks for following up, Kip. This issue doesn't concern me on the practical or theoretical level, but I'm glad that it's being communicated to the top regardless. Cooler heads shall prevail, and all will be worked out, I'm sure.
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Re: Chat with Chris photos June 22, 2012

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Make the new C7 in green with an automatic movement and I'll open my wallet
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Re: Chat with Chris photos June 22, 2012

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[If you did buy one only because it was an exclusive, well, that's kind of strange in itself. At most I suspect, the exclusivity may be but an influence along with several other more important ones, such as the look of the watch and the workmanship that had been put into it. Not to mention the bargain that it is for the money. And for a Jump Hour, the price was certainly a bargain.

I have to wonder how the fact that Chris is now to bring out a brother (or sister) to the Jump Hour, would seriously make anyone want to send back their previously bought Jump Hour, or rush off to Trading Standards :lol: . If you really like the watch, in all honesty, how could this really be an issue? Get over yourselves :thumbdown:

And in any case, the new model is different, the Rose Gold gives it a very different personality and will often appeal to a different buyer.

I know I'll never buy the Jump Hour myself. I like the elgance of the design, but it is just not quite right for me. However, it is a special CW and is one of the models that in years to come (if not already) will be seen as a step change for the brand, or a step up. And if you really are a friend of the brand, that should be good news. Another model even more so because it is an indication of success.

And please, no more talk of deception etc, not only is it a gross overreaction and totally unsubstantiated, it really isn't fair. CWL have over the years been a very reliable and honest brand. And Chris doesn't hide from his fans, or from criticism. Mistakes have been made occasionally, but that's part of the story when launching a new watch brand that strives to provide something special at a reasonable price. It gives meer mortals the chance to own some real quality watches. For most of us on here, it's an adventure. And we're lucky to be in at the beginning :wink:

Cheers,
Jack.[/quote]

If you had spent a sizeable amount on any product that you had been told was 1 of 200 on the planet, you'd be seriously miffed too. On a more serious note, the statement that CWL made regarding this piece and it's production numbers are legally binding and are subject to trading standards regulations. That is not a laughing matter. If you disregard the rule of law or common decency as a business you are no better than Barclays Bank in my opinion.

I am confident Chris will do all he can to make good this mess, and take steps to ensure no repeat of this PR mess.

But do not ridicule peoples legitimate concerns and frustrations.

For the record, I do not own a C9JH.[/quote]

:lol: Yes it is. And it's posts like this that crack me up! Get over yourself.

And it is one of 200.

And as far is legality is concerned - I'd be really very surprised if the team had not checked out the legality.

Cheers,
Jack.
PS: do stop, it's bad for my operation scar. :lol:[/quote]

Lobotomy operation was it?

:clap:[/quote

Oh deary me! I didn't realise I was duelling with someone sooo witty. You really should give up your day job. Brilliant. :lol:

Feel happy throwing out insults from your rocking chair, you battle hardened warrior you? I guess you do...The irony from my perspective is even more excruciatingly amusing than your hand wringing post about trading standards :lol:

Why don't you try to develop a bit of proportion and perspective and then try a reasoned argument. Supported by facts.

And, if you really believe your allegations about CWL in relation to the JH are right - why not email Chris with them. He might even welcome your advice. As I'm sure he hasn't even thought of it :shock: . Maybe he'll offer you a job as his legal and contracts consultant? :D

:lol:

Cheers,
Jack.
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Re: Chat with Chris photos June 22, 2012

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See Christopher Wards response to the C9 JH Rose Gold concerns here.
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Re: Chat with Chris photos June 22, 2012

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Kip wrote:See Christopher Wards response to the C9 JH Rose Gold concerns here.
And I think the response draws a neat line under the whole 'handbags' episode above. :roll:









Now. About that logo.................... :lol:
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Now. About that logo.................... :lol:[/quote]

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Now. About that logo.................... :lol:[/quote]

Interesting precedent...

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Re: Chat with Chris photos June 22, 2012

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Well... I know there are a lot of opinions but I figure this is like wine or beer. You just know what you like. I frankly like quite a few of these and am eager to see them materialize. I especially like the automatic for SWMBO and the new C11 diver, if Auto is gorgeous. I also like the additions to the dressier side of things. Just my opinions but I love that Chris is continuing to grow the brand and more importantly, willing to engage his biggest fans.

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Re: Chat with Chris photos June 22, 2012

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downer wrote:
Kip wrote:See Christopher Wards response to the C9 JH Rose Gold concerns here.
And I think the response draws a neat line under the whole 'handbags' episode above. :roll:

Shame in a way. I thing Andy and me were enjoying it a bit. We're both thinking of giving up our day jobs now :shock:

I'm very impressed with Chris' decision in terms of customer response.

Cheers,
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