ETA 2894 and ETA 2000 movements. Who uses them?

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ETA 2894 and ETA 2000 movements. Who uses them?

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While reading about ETA movements today, I came across these two movements. I don't know as I recall ever seeing them used is a mainstream watch. I assume the 2894 is significantly more expensive that the common 7750, which may explain part of it, but considering how expensive some 7750 based watches are, I wonder if there are other reasons for it to not be used. As for the 2000, I am surprised we don't see it more in thin watches, as it is barely thicker than the somewhat common (in thin watches) manual-wind 2001.
Hopefully someone can shed some light on these 2 movements and there usage.
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Lavaine wrote: Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:26 pm I assume the 2894 is significantly more expensive that the common 7750, which may explain part of it, but considering how expensive some 7750 based watches are, I wonder if there are other reasons for it to not be used
The ETA 2894 is a 2892 based calibre movement with an ETA chronograph module . The movement normally has to be returned to ETA to be serviced (which normally means the module is replaced) which in turn means its more expensive to have serviced . I do know that Tag Heuer use this movement (calibre 17) in some of their chronographs . The 7750 is much easier to service , and can be serviced by most watchmakers/repairers .

The ETA 2000 is a small movement in diameter (19mm) , a smaller version of the ETA 2892 and designed for smaller watches , and I do know that Cartier have used this movement in some of their models and Tag Heuer (cal 2) .Hope this has helped
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Excellent info, Bernie, thank you.

The Cartier 049 in my Tank Solo uses a 2892 ébauche which is a very slim auto with date and gives a watch thickness of 7.65mm.
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One thing to note with the 2894, is that the base 2892 movement can be serviced independently, as the chronograph module typically (or should I say apparently typically) doesn’t require servicing anywhere near as frequently as the host movement. I’ve had a few in watches from time to time.
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Excellent info Bernie. How does the 2894 chrono module compare with a Dobois Depraz module? A DD module grafted onto a 2824 seems to be more common than the 2894. Does it require the offset chrono pushers the same way that a DD module does? With the 2892 being substantially thinner than a 2824, I assume a 2894 would be a good bit thinner than a 2892 with a DD module? Seems like their are pros and cons for the 2894, but servicing challenges would seem to outweigh the benefits of the 2894's superior base ebauche.
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Here is a watch I really love with the 2894 - which makes the watch only 12.5mm thick
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Lavaine wrote: Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:34 am Excellent info Bernie. How does the 2894 chrono module compare with a Dobois Depraz module? A DD module grafted onto a 2824 seems to be more common than the 2894. Does it require the offset chrono pushers the same way that a DD module does? With the 2892 being substantially thinner than a 2824, I assume a 2894 would be a good bit thinner than a 2892 with a DD module? Seems like their are pros and cons for the 2894, but servicing challenges would seem to outweigh the benefits of the 2894's superior base ebauche.
I read this article earlier in the year and think it may answer one or two of your questions . :)

https://wornandwound.com/watchmakers-be ... onographs/
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gaf1958 wrote: Sun Oct 07, 2018 11:56 pm One thing to note with the 2894, is that the base 2892 movement can be serviced independently, as the chronograph module typically (or should I say apparently typically) doesn’t require servicing anywhere near as frequently as the host movement. I’ve had a few in watches from time to time.
Yes , a good note , Gary . The module can be removed , the movement serviced and the module reinstalled . Its only when a part needs to be replaced in the module that the module would normally be replaced .
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I had a 2894-2 movement in my Longines Spirit chronograph. Lovely slim watch (not just slim for a chronograph either), configured for a bi-compax dial layout.

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With luck there’s another 2894-2 on the horizon, but more about that when it arrives.
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Stunning looking Longines , Gary . What are your thoughts on the ETA 2894 compared to other chronograph movements ? that you may have owned / own .
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Thanks for all the information guys. The Farer Cobb is quite nice. I really like the mid case design. The Longines is, of course, a stunner, as are all of their heritage designs.
As a small watch wearer, I am now quite interested in 2894 based watches. I like the 7750, but the thickness tends to be a bit much for sub-40mm cases.
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tempusmaximus wrote:Stunning looking Longines , Gary . What are your thoughts on the ETA 2894 compared to other chronograph movements ? that you may have owned / own .
I have to say that I like the concept of a fully integrated chronograph movement, like the Zenith El Primero, or Omega 321/861/1861 and it’s variants or the good old 7750 but in use, there’s really not a lot in it. I do prefer the 2894 to the other piggyback styles using the Dubois Depraz module mounted on a variety of other movements. It’s quite a bit thinner and there’s no obvious dual plane arrangement for the crown and push buttons that you get with the Dubois Depraz combos. Movements like the 7750 are very thick, resulting of necessity in a thick watch, whereas the 2894 can be used in some quite slim cases.

Although I own a fair few chronographs, using the timing functions these days is something I do less frequently than I did a decade or more ago. Perhaps it’s as a result of the always available timer functions on mobile phones. :?
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Can I recommend watchbase.com

You can search by watch type https://watchbase.com/watches

Or by calibre https://watchbase.com/calibers

There is plenty of info on ETA movements as well https://watchbase.com/eta

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