The Alliance of British Watch & Clock Makers

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There’s an email from CWL offering free membership using the £100 discount code. I’ll have a proper look later, but it my be worthwhile if a free year of membership.
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Sorry, must pay more attention, see it’s already been posted :oops:
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Just got that email also.
£100 voucher plus membership (worth £55) with a purchase before xmas eve. Not a bad deal I suppose..?!!!
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kiter65 wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 11:00 am Sorry, must pay more attention, see it’s already been posted :oops:
I just merged the two topics, Richard. It can get messy otherwise! :lol:
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Cheers Steve :thumbup:
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Dickchins wrote:Just got that email also.
£100 voucher plus membership (worth £55) with a purchase before xmas eve. Not a bad deal I suppose..?!!!
As I read it; you buy a watch for over £500, use the 100LOUPE19 voucher to get £100 off then, and only then, you get your free membership of the Alliance of British Watchmakers worth £55.


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Bahnstormer_vRS wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 12:10 pm
Dickchins wrote:Just got that email also.
£100 voucher plus membership (worth £55) with a purchase before xmas eve. Not a bad deal I suppose..?!!!
As I read it; you buy a watch for over £500, use the 100LOUPE19 voucher to get £100 off then, and only then, you get your free membership of the Alliance of British Watchmakers worth £55.


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That looks about right Guy!
I like the deal anyway!


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I still can't take this 'Alliance' seriously while their home page is illustrated with a watch that has "Swiss made" on the dial.
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RichM wrote:In one if the comments underneath the Hodinkee feature, it says that CW manufacture in China so this "British Alliance" is a bit rich.

Is the China bit accurate?

Bremont would seem a good fit for the alliance as well.
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You do realize plenty of "100% Swiss" brands that are so Swiss they bleed Rivella.... Also source their cases from China.

One rhymes with Zag Mayer. Another rhymes with Zissout.

Final CW assembly is done in switzerland, the movements are swiss and other components are Swiss.

Good enough for me.

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Viognier wrote:Might anyone know where the cases are manufactured for other larger watch brands? Rolex, Omega, Tag, Bremont, Zenith, Seiko ?
Tag, zenith and Seiko all use chinese cases for certain models

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exHowfener wrote:Am I the only person who find's CW's involvement to be a little bizarre? Matched only by the Alliance choosing to illustrate their website with a CW watch (at least the "Swiss made" text was carefully excluded from the photo). I'm not knocking CW in any way, I really like their watches, but they are hardly "British Watch & Clock makers" unless I'm missing something.

I'm sure that he cases are made on CNC machines these days so I wonder just how much it would really add to the cost to have them made closer to home?
Making anything in the UK is more expensive than in CCP China or east Asia. Look at Bremont. Buying the machines and getting them setup I'd the hardest part.

A few American brands do it and they mention the setup costs are enormous. They also only make a few thousand watches a year.

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Commisar wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 3:02 pmTag, zenith and Seiko all use chinese cases for certain models
So where do CW source their cases from then?
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Caller wrote:
Commisar wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 3:02 pmTag, zenith and Seiko all use chinese cases for certain models
So where do CW source their cases from then?
China, probably a manufacturer around Hong Kong. As do many Swiss, Japanese, and American brands Image

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Making anything in the UK is more expensive than in CCP China or east Asia
I understand that. And of course people have things made where it's cheaper to do so - isn't that why Rolex moved to Switzerland? I don't have any kind of problem with things being made overseas. I don't have an issue with stuff being made in China, nor do I think that the quality of Chinese made goods needs to be lower than anything made elsewhere - they have a space programme after all. It's only low quality when the the price being paid is low. You don't always get what you pay for, but you never get what you don't pay for.
What I can't get my head around is:
1) How having your stuff made in China/Switzerland or anywhere outside the UK leads to setting up as a "British Watch & Clock Maker".
2) Why, as an "Alliance of British Watch & Clock Makers" you would choose to decorate the home page of your website with a "Swiss Made" watch.

But that's just my view.
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Commisar, I read that Bremont had bought CNC machines; I don't know how many. Have they stated if their machines will be used only to fabricate their own cases or will they be used also for others wanting some machining services (not just watch cases)?

I don't know what is Bremont's annual shipments but I imagine they wouldn't want their machines to sit idle for an an extended amount of time. That's why I wondered if they were going to offer their machining services to others.
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